About this lesson

K3 LESSON 33 · PASS

Sign conventions: why PMT, PV and FV come out negative

Excel's finance functions treat money as cash flows: cash you receive is positive and cash you pay is negative. So a loan you receive (+640,000) gives a negative repayment, =PMT(B2,B3,B1). Put a minus in front, =-PMT(B2,B3,B1), to show it as a positive amount, and give PMT and the loan opposite signs whenever you combine them in FV.

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=PMT(B2,B3,B1)

What you'll practise

Audit a client's equipment loan: see why PMT comes back negative, flip it, find the balance still owing with FV, then prove the loan is paid off.

4 steps · 40 points · the cells outlined in gold below

  • PMT
  • FV
  • sign convention
  • cash in vs cash out

The data

AB
1Loan received ($)$640,000.00
2Annual rate7.8%
3Years6
4
5Repayment, as PMT gives it
6Repayment, positive
7Still owing after 3 years
8Still owing after 6 years

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